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Thursday, January 22, 2009

When Should You Sleep With Him?

By Penny Wrenn

Some experts say that jumping into bed too soon is the #1 relationship mistake women make now. Not to get all prudish, but it might be a good idea to wait a little—for better sex and stronger love.

Not long ago, hoping to silence my moaning about a particularly rough dating drought, a girlfriend volunteered to fix me up with her old friend T. One e-mail from him and I was smitten. After a day of message volleying, we agreed to talk on the phone that night.

T. sounded as charming as he was online. I wanted to speed things along—finally I'd found someone worthy of my attention—and I suggested we meet right that minute. He agreed and rushed over to my apartment. From then on we were coupled up, quite literally, since we spent most of our time horizontal in his place or mine.

Soon enough, though, the mornings after brought a sinking "this isn't going to work" feeling. Charmingly boyish now seemed plain immature, and enthusiastic was more like hyper. The more time we spent vertical, actually talking, the less I liked him. So one night, during a romantic dinner at my favorite Italian bistro (I'd insisted that we finally go somewhere other than our apartments), I announced, "I don't think we have what it takes to make it in the long run." After six months of ordering takeout and sleeping over, we were breaking up on our first real date.

This wasn't the only time I'd fast-forwarded to the sex. In fact, I'd spent a good deal of my romantic life doing what I can only call dating in bed. But I couldn't help what-iffing: What if that first night, I'd hung up the phone and gone to sleep (alone and, yes, a little horny, but giddy about what might happen)? I might have discovered over the course of a few conversations that I wasn't interested. Instead, I lost a lot of time, and T. felt he'd lost more than that. I'm not bragging, but he took our breakup hard. Maybe if I'd practiced a little sexual restraint I would have saved myself a lot of confusion and him some hurt.

In the post-Sex and the City era we live in, any hand-wringing over a question as old-fashioned as "Did I have sex with him too soon?" sounds like a teen movie or, worse, the book The Rules. But I'm definitely not a Rules girl. I reject game playing, refuse to subscribe to the not-before-the-third-date law and believe women are in charge of their sex lives the same way men are. Still, the T. episode left me in need of advice on the issue, so I asked around.

"Having sex too soon is the biggest mistake I see women making," says Nina Atwood, a Dallas-based therapist who is the author of Temptations of the Single Girl and the voice of reason on singlescoach.com. "We always tout the exception: A woman sleeps with a guy on the first date, and they wind up married and it's all great. But for every one of those fairy tales, I've heard 150 stories from women who've started down that road and didn't end up in the loving relationship they wanted."

Asking yourself whether you're having sex too soon, Atwood hastens to point out, doesn't mean catapulting back to the days when women weren't entitled to be as freely, truly, madly and deeply sexual as men. "It's about 'too soon' for your own well-being and happiness," she says, "not 'too soon' in the eyes of the world." Laura Berman, Ph.D., author of Real Sex for Real Women, also believes that waiting allows us to avoid what she calls "emotional shrapnel" but adds that "anytime you're putting 'too' on your sex life—it shouldn't come from a place of pressure and expectation."

So block out what anyone else thinks, and come up with the sexual timing that works best for you. But while you're at it, consider the following five reasons to hold off a little: They come from therapists, sexologists and real women, and they're extremely compelling.

Because You'll Have Better Sex

Christien, 31, says that after waiting six months to sleep with her boyfriend, closing the deal was "intense—in a good way." She decided to wait, she says, because "he showed 'looks like it can go somewhere' potential" and she "could establish a bond with him—both for romance and friendship." But waiting hasn't always been Christien's thing. She'd often slept with guys right away, and the experiences proved to be so-so because "there wasn't that feeling of togetherness."

Bonding has awesome benefits, says Laura Berman: "Research shows that the number-one component of women's sexual satisfaction is not orgasm; it's connection to the person they're with." The more connected you feel, the better the sex will be.

For Christien, this closeness makes for amazing sex because she allows herself to offer and enjoy a full-course experience that includes kissing and oral sex. "I feel more sensual. I don't worry about how my body looks. I already know he's really attracted to me and desires me. I can be relaxed, funny, awkward, all of it—my most comfortable, sexiest self."

What about those women who get busy right away because sex is a part of their mate-appraisal process? (They prefer to know sooner rather than later if the goods are, well, good.) The problem with that logic, says Logan Levkoff, Ph.D., sexologist and author of Third Base Ain't What It Used to Be, is that the first time isn't always representative of what sex will be like: "It can get better as people learn about each other's bodies and speak up about their needs."

Because You Won't Confuse Chemistry With Compatibility

Sometimes you meet a guy and the vibe is so hot you know the sex will be too. Why not just go for it right then? Because heat and hormones can be mistaken for true affinity, says Atwood. "Look ahead and think, OK, this feels wonderful, but where will we be tomorrow or the next day?"

That's asking for an awful lot of self-discipline, though, at the very moment when our judgment may be impaired by powerful brain chemicals. Sexual arousal triggers surges of the feel-good neurotransmitter dopamine and the hormone oxytocin, which stimulates feelings of attachment and love. Surely this chemical cascade was at work when T. and I got together. How does a woman on the threshold of passion manage to put mind over mojo?

Jennifer R. Berman, M.D., Laura's sister and co-director of the Female Sexual Medicine Center at UCLA, suggests a practical technique for avoiding impulsive decisions: "In the midst of a potentially risky situation, develop a habit of asking yourself, 'Do I care if this guy never calls me again?' Then stop, think, choose and think again."

Because You'll Do It for the Right Reasons

What might constitute a wrong reason to sleep with someone? Levkoff names some that she frequently hears: to keep him interested; to be publicly recognized as "in a relationship"; out of habit; because you need a man (any man) to validate your attractiveness. These are motives we don't always admit to ourselves, she says. But understanding the deeper reasons we might be jumping into bed too soon can head off unhappy endings.

Here's where it gets a little psychoanalytic: You might need to trace your sexual story line back to its beginning to figure out what drives your decisions. Mine starts, "Once upon a time, a girl who lacked self-confidence sought male affirmation, and at 15 she impulsively lost her virginity to a guy whom she'd just met and whose name she can no longer remember…." Despite growing older (and, presumably, wiser), I haven't strayed far from that script.
My first encounter set in motion a cycle that undermined my evolving relationship needs. Since I was no longer a 15-year-old who needed sex to demonstrate my desirability or feel better about myself, my pattern wasn't terribly satisfying anymore. "Many women act based on who they were rather than who they are now," says New Jersey-based life coach and counselor Jeree Wade. For those like me who would benefit from replacing an outdated sex-life script, Wade advises delaying gratification, a practice she believes is the hallmark of "making sexual decisions that are good for you." The longer you wait, the more information you can gather about a new relationship—how you really feel about him, how he feels about you—the less likely you are to reflexively reenact a past scenario.

Because Sex Is the Big Deal You Think It's Not

We're talking about an activity that can sometimes lead to irreversible consequences: an STD, a child, life-changing drama (betrayal, restraining orders, etc.). "Sex is this very heavy thing that everyone does their best to make light of," says Dorothy Robinson, coauthor of the morbidly titled Dating Makes You Want to Die. But, she warns, the heaviness can catch up with you by the time you wake up the next morning.

For Lynn, 31, second-date sex led to a third date (and then some). Soon she was falling hard for the guy, but it turned out he wasn't exactly on the same page. When he moved to Texas with barely a goodbye, a confused Lynn wondered, "What about us?" and felt jilted. "It was as if the last few months were one big misunderstanding," she says. "To him, our relationship was the dumpable kind; for me it was a keeper."

Atwood says it's a pattern she sees with many couples. When we rush into bed, she observes, the chances are greater that we find ourselves wanting the man either more, or less, than he wants us. In either case, we're off balance instead of being in that relationship comfort zone where both parties desire each other in roughly the same way and to the same degree. The longer you wait, Atwood says, the clearer your sense of where you stand with him is, which helps you decide what you want to do next. Hey, maybe you'll go for the sex anyway, but you'll both know better what lopsided thing you could be getting into.

Because Sex Right Away Can Make You Feel Empowered—But It Can Also Make You a Needy Mess

Catherine, 29, typically thinks long and hard about a guy's husband-material quotient before sleeping with him. But a few months after splitting with her boyfriend of three years, she decided to take a break from serious relationships. "I met a man, he was hot and I went for it," she says. And though she didn't start off with lofty expectations, once they had sex, she suddenly wanted more: "I didn't even like him that much, but I wanted him to like me that much."

True sexual empowerment, Levkoff believes, "is about knowing who you are and knowing what you need to be fulfilled emotionally and physically." And sometimes, for some women, that may mean making the tough decision to say, "I need to be intimate before I have sex."

If, after reading this, you're all, "Uh-oh, we've already gotten it on too early! Have I flubbed any chance for a long-lasting connection?" Nina Atwood has excellent do-over advice to chart a less sexually charged course: The next time he calls and wants to get together, suggest going out to dinner or for coffee—someplace where clothes must stay on. Start by telling him you're very interested in him and you want to see where this can go, but you made the mistake of having sex too soon.

"Open up a dialogue, saying something like, 'You won't hurt my feelings if you don't feel the same, but I want to see if we have couple potential,'" Atwood advises. "You don't have to stop sleeping with him, but you need to find out where you stand." For anyone who thinks this script seems heavy for morning-after chitchat, Atwood offers a sobering response: "I find it ironic that people would rather have sex than discuss the ramifications of it."
"Delay gratification" and "Stop, think, choose, think again"—the expert advice suggests this bottom line: Wait. Not forever. Perhaps just one date or even one minute more, until you're sure this guy and this situation make sense for you. Because sometimes knowing what you want feels as good as sex—maybe even better.

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How to have a sexy relationship without actual sex

Make out on street corners. The thrill of being in public will add to the excitement while stopping things from going too far.

Kiss like it's the main event. Focus on every lick, pucker and gentle nibble. And two tongues at a time is overrated, so take turns exploring.

Don't wait to talk dirty. Anything you say while your bodies are thisclose sounds like a turn on, especially if you whisper it.

Be good with your hands. If sexual frustration gets the best of you, may we suggest exploring all that fingers can do?


From "5 reasons to wait to sleep with him."

Monday, July 07, 2008

Your Dating Bill of Rights

You have the right to ask.
If you are interested in someone, you are free to ask them out. Pretty basic idea, but can be easily missed.

You have the right to the jitters.
They are most likely nervous too, and it is ok to admit that you do have the jitters about the date. They may say that they are in the same position!

You have the right to punctuality.
This is not a come-when-ever-you-feel-like-getting-around-to-it thing. Be on time. They made time for this in their schedule and you should be respectful of that.

You have the right to free speech.
Speak your true thoughts on things, don't hide who you are just to say what you think they want to hear. Be open and encourage the other person to speak too, ask questions and try to get them to speak up so its not just you talking.

You have the right to fun.
Don't come in ready for the spouse interview. Have dates that are activity-oriented. You will be able to actually do something fun, and will have the activity at hand to talk about if conversation stalls. Doing something with them lets you see how they react to different situations, see what kind of decisions they make, how they prefer to do things, and you can normally get a pretty good peek and their back side at some point. ;)

You have the right to undivided attention.
The two of you have set aside this time to be just with each other. If they are not giving you the attention that is to be expected, if they are busy talking with everyone else (on the phone or at the bar) but you, leave. The point of the date is to get to know one another.

You have the right to bare arms—or long sleeves.
Dress to fit the occasion, but dress comfortably for you also. You need to be comfortable in your own skin, and when you are it will help let things flow more naturally.

You have the right to kiss.
If things are working out well between the two of you, and the moment comes that you want to kiss, go for it. If it makes it more comfortable, you can always ask to kiss them first. "I've had a great evening, and right now, I'd really like to kiss you." would work. If they say no, take the no. Don't press someone into doing something they don't want.

You have the right to follow-up.
Don't worry about whatever the "appropriate waiting time" is before contacting them. If you had fun, tell them! Go ahead and ask them out again. Why go through the stress of wondering if they are going to call, if they had a good time, or if they ever want to see you again? Tell them.

You have the right to cancel.
If something major has come up, if you get a big project at work, get sick, its ok to call and ask to reschedule. If it is big enough, you may just need to cancel and try again in a month or so.

You have the right to bow out (and break up).
If the date is not going well, if you feel unsafe or uncomfortable, you can say thank you for tonight and leave. If the relationship is not going anywhere, you can end it.


Would like to thank MSN for this list and if you like more information, check out their link.

Sunday, July 06, 2008

Been Getting Comments

.... I did not know what I was going to use this blog for. I posted some things about relationships, and then ended up learning a lot about them from experience. I still don't know what to put on this blog, and I'm not sure I should be doing anything with it.

I could post some of my writings on here, but this is much more public than I like most of them to be.

And if I knew who I was writing for, that would help a whole lot. :P

~J

Wednesday, June 20, 2007


Friday, June 01, 2007

The poetic word

Perhaps one of the most interesting and colourful words in the English language today is the word "fuck". It is the one magical word, which, just by its sound, can describe pain, pleasure, love, and hate.

In language, "fuck" falls into many grammatical categories. It can be used as a verb, both transitive (Mary fucked John) and intransitive (John was fucked by Mary). It can be an action verb (John really gives a fuck), a passive verb (Mary really doesn’t give a fuck), an adverb (Mary is fucking interested in John), or as a noun (Mary is a terrific fuck). It can also be used as an adjective (Mary is fucking beautiful) or an interjection (Fuck! I’m late for my date with Mary). It can even be used as a conjunction (John is ugly, fuck, he’s also stupid). As you can see, there are very few words with the overall versatility of the word "fuck."

Aside from its sexual connotations, this incredible word can be used to describe many situations:

1) Surprise -- "What the fuck are you doing here?"
2) Fraud -- "I got fucked by the car dealer."
3) Resignation -- "Oh, fuck it!"
4) Trouble -- "I guess I’m fucked now."
5) Aggression -- "FUCK YOU!"
6) Disgust -- "Fuck me."
7) Confusion -- "What the fuck...?"
8) Difficulty -- "I don’t understand this fucking business!"
9) Despair -- "Fucked again...."
10) Pleasure -- "I fucking couldn’t be happier."
11) Displeasure -- "What the fuck is going on here?"
12) Lost -- "Where the fuck are we?"
13) Disbelief -- "UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!"
14) Retaliation -- "Up your fucking ass!"
15) Denial -- "I didn’t fucking do it."
16) Perplexity -- "I know fuck-all about it."
17) Apathy -- "Who really gives a fuck, anyhow?"
18) Greetings -- "How the fuck are ya?"
19) Suspicion -- "Who the fuck are you?"
20) Panic -- "Let’s get the fuck out of here."
21) Directions -- "Fuck off."
22) Awe -- "How the fuck did you do that?"

It can be used in an anatomical description -- "He’s a fucking asshole."
It can be used to tell time -- "It’s five fucking thirty."
It can be used in business -- "How did I wind up with this fucking job?"
It can be maternal --"Motherfucker."
It can be political -- "Fuck Bush!"
And it can be almost every word in the sentence -- "Fuck the fucking fuckers."

Sunday, December 17, 2006

A Woman's Question

Do you know you have asked for the costliest thing
Ever made by the Hand above?
A woman's heart, and a woman's life--
And a woman's wonderful love.

Do you know you have asked for this priceless thing
As a child might ask for a toy?
Demanding what others have died to win,
With the reckless dash of a boy.

You have written my lesson of duty out,
Manlike, you have questioned me.
Now stand at the bars of my woman's soul
Until I shall question thee.

You require your mutton shall always be hot,
Your socks and your shirt be whole;
I require your heart be true as God's stars
And as pure as His heaven your soul.

You require a cook for your mutton and beef,
I require a far greater thing;
A seamstress you're wanting for socks and shirts--
I look for a man and a king.

A king for the beautiful realm called Home,
And a man that his Maker, God,
Shall look upon as He did on the first
And say: "It is very good."

I am fair and young, but the rose may fade
From this soft young cheek one day;
Will you love me then 'mid the falling leaves,
As you did 'mong the blossoms of May?

Is your heart an ocean so strong and true,
I may launch my all on its tide?
A loving woman finds heaven or hell
On the day she is made a bride.

I require all things that are grand and true,
All things that a man should be;
If you give this all, I would stake my life
To be all you demand of me.

If you cannot be this, a laundress and cook
You can hire and little to pay;
But a woman's heart and a woman's life
Are not to be won that way.

~Lena Lathrop
from I Kissed Dating Goodbye by Joshua Harris


I would like to say Thank you to Barbara, for typing this up and posting it on Far Above Rubies.
Even though most of us no longer speak like this, it still rings true. There is a debate going on, and has been for years, "Why do the women go for the jerks, instead of the gentlemen?" If the readers of this blog are interisted, I can retrieve the arguments of that debate and have a discussion here on that subject as well. I would be interested in what yall have to say about it.

Friday, December 15, 2006

Man - Woman

"Be very careful if you make a woman cry,
because God counts her tears.
The woman came out of a man's rib.
Not from his feet to be walked on.
Not from his head to be superior, but from the side to be equal.
Under the arm to be protected, and next to the heart to be loved."


I came across this again today.
I don't know how to put into words, how exactly to express,
all that this says and means to me.
It is a soft reminder to me, of how I should expect to be treated
from the man God has for me.